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LCS Freedom in Charleston

June 9, 2009

New Wars visited the City of Charleston SC to view the Navy’s newest class of warship, USS Freedom LCS-1. We had a great time, the crew were extremely nice and helpful, and the crowd was impressive. Enjoy the few pics of a proud new warship:

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Excellent view of Freedom's Mk 110 57mm gun

Excellent view of Freedom's Mk 110 57mm gun

Ship's Bridge, or Cockpit would be more accurate!

Ship's Bridge, or Cockpit would be more accurate!

Freedom's very spacious hangar deck.

Freedom's very spacious hangar deck.

18 Comments leave one →
  1. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 13, 2009 6:48 pm

    Ken, I can’t answer your question. Still trying to figure out how a terrorist suicide boat knocked one of our mighty Aegis battleships out of service for a year, while it was in port, in an area known to be infested with Al Qaeda back in 2000. I guess the answer would be, prepare for the unexpected.

  2. WTH permalink
    June 13, 2009 5:19 pm

    Based on the folks giving tours elsewhere bridge wings can’t support .50s.

    But a 249 or 60 will do I think.

  3. June 13, 2009 5:13 pm

    Sure Mike. And the bridge crew won’t shoot back, will they? How well will that AK-47 be able to hit anything from a small boat, when it’s under fire from the 0.50 MG on the wing?

  4. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 11, 2009 3:39 pm

    Galrahn-Pirates with AK-47s would make short work of the bridge crew!

  5. June 11, 2009 2:45 pm

    The centerline view will be a change order, at least that is what I was told when I was on the ship and asked about it. The problem isn’t really standing at the center though, the problem is the obstruction when standing on one side and looking towards the other. That was my experience. I did not see anywhere to stand in the centerline when underway, and the only seat is the engineering station.

    I’m more concerned about that much glass around a bridge than anything. It isn’t some special reinforced glass either.

  6. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 11, 2009 10:20 am

    Well, I am waiting to see if Freedom is deployed to the Gulf of Aden, a sudden drop in the number of attacks and the pirates scurrying for their shallow water havens. Not very confident this will happen.

  7. Scott B. permalink
    June 11, 2009 10:00 am

    Ken Adams said : “please give the concept a chance to prove itself as the small mothership for unmanned systems that it was designed to be.”

    1) Part of the concept was that the seaframe was going to cost $220 million (threshold), and in the absence of a serious miracle, it’s safe to say that none of the designs will ever come close to this number.

    2) You guys already have two hulls in the water, and another two have just been ordered. Together with the mission packages that have already been delivered or ordered, that’s more than you need to test the concept.

  8. G-man permalink
    June 11, 2009 8:58 am

    Ken
    I don’t think the Navy has the luxury of proving the concept of a $650 million LCS, with #2 slated to come in at $730 million. Disposable? Warfighter? More like a gilded prostitute. no matter how much make-up and spin you apply, it is what it is.

  9. June 10, 2009 11:20 pm

    Scott, what I stated was not intended as a “personal attack” as you characterized it. It was my observation that it would not be possible to sway your opinion on LCS, no matter what evidence I might be able to present. You have so vehemently commented on the negatives of this ship, and specifically attacked Lockheed Martin, repeatedly, over the execution of the program that it isn’t worth the time to try convincing you.
    I’m not asking you to be “impressed with LockMart’s record” in the shipbuilding industry, but please give the concept a chance to prove itself as the small mothership for unmanned systems that it was designed to be.

  10. west_rhino permalink
    June 10, 2009 2:14 pm

    Still it IS a skimmer and cannon fodder in the CVBG.

  11. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 10, 2009 12:33 pm

    There was an armed guard on the bridge. They told us take all the pictures we wanted, but I was still a little nervous!

  12. WTH permalink
    June 10, 2009 12:13 pm

    Nobody mentioned that the console shown (best seat on the bridge from my quick look) in the Pic is the EOOW. Brilliant.

    I griped about the centerline view when I toured a while ago. They also do not have the bridge window reinforcements installed which limit visibility further.

  13. Scott B. permalink
    June 10, 2009 5:23 am

    Ken Adams said : “Of course, you’ll never accept the idea that Lockheed can do anything right in a shipbuilding program, so why should anyone bother telling you different?”

    Am I supposed to be impressed by a *ship* that’s at least 500 tons overweight, if not 1,000 tons as Bill suggested many times in the past, and more recently here ?

    Am I supposed to be impressed by a *ship* which, at $637 million, has experienced a cost growth of 196% vs the initial President’s bdget request of $215 million.

    Am I supposed to be impressed with LockMart’s track record in the shipbuilding industry ?

    Feel free to tell your story about the obstructed centerline. This could at least add some anecdotal substance in the discussion.

    But keep the personal attacks for yourself.

    OK ?

  14. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 10, 2009 2:45 am

    Thanks Ken! I’m not a big fan of the LCS as regular readers likely know, but sometimes you put away your bias for a chance to see the Navy up close. I’ve loved ships since I was a kid, despite being a “lubber”!

  15. June 9, 2009 10:39 pm

    Nice pics, Mike!

  16. June 9, 2009 10:37 pm

    Scott, there’s a long and painful story behind that centerline view. It was not that way when first designed.

    Of course, you’ll never accept the idea that Lockheed can do anything right in a shipbuilding program, so why should anyone bother telling you different?

  17. Mike Burleson permalink
    June 9, 2009 8:20 pm

    It was a beautiful ship, not like a warship at all. Not sure if that is a good thing!

  18. Scott B. permalink
    June 9, 2009 7:49 pm

    Centerline view from the bridge is just lovely !!!

    That’s the kind of little detail that says quite a lot on the shipbuilding experience of the industry team leader for LCS-1…

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