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Light Carriers in Action!

September 8, 2009

Launching modern fixed wing fighters too!

Thanks to Eric L Palmer.

14 Comments leave one →
  1. elgatoso permalink
    September 10, 2009 4:46 pm

    That is I am talking about.COIN or lighter fighter (Tucano,Texan,whatever) flying from LHD like WWII, but with a lot more firepower.

  2. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 10, 2009 6:07 am

    elgatoso-I would imagine there would be little need for catapults for such planes, since prop fighters launched from even smaller ships before the age of jets.

  3. Scott B. permalink
    September 10, 2009 4:45 am

    Here’s is a September 10 article published on Defpro’s website that might be of interest :

    Challenging the STOVL Myth

    Enjoy… ;)

  4. elgatoso permalink
    September 9, 2009 9:29 pm

    there is a possibility to fly COIN aircraft or light fighters from LHD???

  5. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 9, 2009 3:13 pm

    Steve I seem to recall the Jaguar was meant to operate from the French carriers, though I didn’t know the reason it was rejected. Thats was a great light warplane!

  6. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 9, 2009 3:12 pm

    Indeed West! Lets make the most of it…

  7. west_rhino permalink
    September 9, 2009 3:08 pm

    Heresey! Heresey!

  8. steve coltman permalink
    September 9, 2009 10:31 am

    Many years ago I read that the French navy rejected the Jaguar M as being too heavy for the flight decks of Clemenceau and Foch. So, I am surprised to see Rafale operating from one of them. jaguar M never went into production. I wonder how big a carrier has to be to operate the Gripen for example? I think the smallest carriers fitted with catapults etc would have been around 16,000 tonnes.

  9. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 8, 2009 9:57 pm

    Eric-Yikes! They have been warned, but will they listen?

    Distiller said-“In the end even a modified LHD could operate a SHornet or Rafale”

    Thats what I’ve been saying only to be mocked! With precision weapons, what an asset these would be.

  10. September 8, 2009 5:23 pm

    If the production of the Super Hornet stops and the F-35C doesn’t deliver, that along with the legacy Hornets running out of life means that 10 years from now you will have 2 fighter squadrons per big nuke carrier.

  11. Distiller permalink
    September 8, 2009 5:03 pm

    The critical parameters are aircraft footprint and the question of simultaneous take-off/landing operations. In the end even a modified LHD could operate a SHornet or Rafale. To operate a minimum size full spectrum air wing, which should be around 45 aircraft, and doing so with simultaneous take-off and landing ops, requires a vessel close to 55.000ts as sweet spot.

  12. Hudson permalink
    September 8, 2009 2:58 pm

    The instrument displays in the video looked to be in English. Was the video edited from the French? I watched it without sound.

  13. William permalink
    September 8, 2009 1:32 pm

    It does look like that about 30,000 tons is more optimall for a light carrier to carry a credible airgroup.

    The new 18DDH Japanese Carrier (not the 16DDH Hyuga) is coming in at 248m and about 28,000 tons(western). Don’t call it a carrier though!

    The Italian Cavour is 244m and 27,000 tons and the Juan Carlos LHD is 231m and 27,000 tons.

    Not saying that smaller carriers arn’t usefull though.

  14. Solomon permalink
    September 8, 2009 1:14 pm

    It only did trials aboard the Foch. The French obviously are believers in the big deck concept or else they wouldn’t be moving to them. Additionally its highly doubtful whether a small carrier would be able to effectively operate a wing of airplanes in the same manner as the US Navy does off its big decks. This was experimentation and validation of the airplane on an aircraft carrier and at the time of the testing…even a small deck would do.

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