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More Influence Squadron Action!

September 12, 2009
A US Navy force protection boat assigned to Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron (MSRON) 5 provides port security for Landing Craft Utility Five Forks (LCU 2018) as it transfers equipment from the Royal Navy fleet auxiliary ship Cardigan Bay (L 3009) in the Persian Gulf.

A US Navy force protection boat assigned to Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron (MSRON) 5 provides port security for Landing Craft Utility Five Forks (LCU 2018) as it transfers equipment from the Royal Navy fleet auxiliary ship Cardigan Bay (L 3009) in the Persian Gulf.

Several of the components of the Influence Squadron concept, as espoused by Commander Henry J. Hendrix, U.S. Navy in his equally influential article titled Buy Ford, Not Ferrari, came together recently in the Persian Gulf. As noted in the caption, here is a Bay class Landing Ship which our friend Alex at the Naval Requirements blog once proposed as a future mothership alternative, as well as a couple of small craft, which would be important assets of such a strategy.

8 Comments leave one →
  1. leesea permalink
    September 14, 2009 12:56 am

    While many folks propose putting major caliber weapons (some land types) on ships, most will not work for reasons peculiar to naval weapons. To start off with ships are NOT stabilized platforms.

    William distributed passive weight is NOT the same as dynamic loads from recoiling guns and does not address other particulars of naval architecture. I would not use Wiki info for these kinds of things.

  2. William permalink
    September 13, 2009 3:06 pm

    It depends on what you mean by come in close for NGFS. The 155m gun has a range of 60km or more depending on barrel length/ammunition, so that allows for some standoff capability.

    Regarding having an Archer on deck, the bays do already carry shipping containers on deck. Wiki says they carry 12 × 40ft FEU or 24 × 20ft TEU containers. The maximum weight of a 40 foot container is listed as 30,480kg. The Archer weighs 30 tons. I prefer the Archer option, deck loading permitting as it can then also be deployed onto shore.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCHER_Artillery_System

  3. leesea permalink
    September 13, 2009 1:53 pm

    While I think the Bay class LSD(A) would make fine motherships, lets not forget that they are armed naval auxiliaries NOT warships. So putting major weapons systems on them is probably NOT in the offing. In addition, several of this class already have a very large tensioned tent on deck aft to support aircraft operations.

    IF you want a gunship to come in close and do NSFS, then look at a warship platform.

    P.S. While I really like the Archer gun system, one would have to look hard at deck loading when firing them from a helo deck

  4. William permalink
    September 13, 2009 9:44 am

    Or you could put one of these on deck.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCHER_Artillery_System

  5. William permalink
    September 13, 2009 8:49 am

    NGFS with GPS shells. I’d also look at using a longer barrel to extend the range. Just a “nice to have” really.

  6. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 12, 2009 8:34 pm

    No offence William but what would you use the 155mm for?

  7. William permalink
    September 12, 2009 5:25 pm

    I’d like future versions of the bay class to be stretched and have a hangar and possibly a 155mm gun.

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