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September 18, 2009
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A multi-national naval force, including the San Antonio class-amphibious transport dock ship USS Mesa Verde (LPD 19), USS Doyle (FFG 39), USCGC Mohawk (WMEC 913), the Colombian navy frigate ARC Independiente, the Dutch navy auxiliary ship HMNLS Amsterdam, and the Uruguayan navy frigate General Artigas, underway in formation as part of Fuerzas Aliadas PANAMAX 2009. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Gary B. Granger Jr.

A multi-national naval force, including the San Antonio class-amphibious transport dock ship USS Mesa Verde (LPD 19), USS Doyle (FFG 39), USCGC Mohawk (WMEC 913), the Colombian navy frigate ARC Independiente, the Dutch navy auxiliary ship HMNLS Amsterdam, and the Uruguayan navy frigate General Artigas, underway in formation as part of Fuerzas Aliadas PANAMAX 2009. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Gary B. Granger Jr.

US Navy


US Shifts Missile Defense From Europe To Navy Ships.

U.S. Navy brings forward F-35 operation date.

Navy Revamps LCS Program. More.

LCS funding cut, $1.7 billion in extra destroyer allocated.

Admiral: Impact of Nimitz extension ‘profound’.

New Chain Gun Installation Aboard USS Ingraham.

Where are our Carriers? Increasingly, at home.

Stealthy Italian submarine will train with U.S. Navy.

Aegis For The Masses.

 

Warships of the World


Awesome computer generated image of future RN Carriers. More.

RN carriers may be sunk by cuts.

HMS Iron Duke Proves She Is Still Fit To Fight.

Revealed: the £130bn cost of Trident replacement.

Russian carrier-killer missiles on Indian Subs.

Can India Ignore China’s Anti Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM) ?

Second Indian stealth destroyer to be launched Friday.

China Develops Second Anti-Carrier Weapon.

Pakistani Submarine Developments – Go Nuclear?

Pakistan gets first Sword-class frigate.

South Korea plans supersonic cruise missile.

South Korea considers bigger subs.

Russian Helo Carrier Search Could Expand.

Russia tests new nuclear submarine in Arctic.

Services Seeking Submarine-Launched SAMs.

Shipborne versatility: offshore patrol vessels.

Seeking A Cost-Effective Amphibious Ship.

‘Ocean politics’ shapes Canadian navy.

 

Tackling Pirates


For Better or Worse, Dutch Copy U.S. Soft-Power Cruise.

S Korean anti-piracy team returns.

Lasers upset pirate plans.

Piracy Off The Horn Of Africa.

North Korean ship fights off Somali pirates.

Arctic Sea ‘arms ship’ has been cruising off West African coast.

Russian Navy to Send the Fourth Counter-Piracy Naval Unit Off Horn of Africa.

China, Russia navies on joint anti-piracy patrols.

Pirate Hunters of the Gulf of Aden.

Death And Disappointment From The Sea.

Nigeria Deploys Israeli-Built War Planes, Ships.

 

From the Navy Vaults


A Hero Laid to Rest; Major Everett P. Pope, USMC. (US Naval Institute blog)

Maritime Evacuation on 9/11 – An American Dunkirk. (Old Salt Blog)

Stryker Goes to Sea. (New Wars)

Captain Jacques-Yves Cousteau – Oceanographer. (Mother Earth News)

Brown Water Navy in Vietnam-Video. (Boston Maggie)

Memorial to lost RN WWII submariners. (BBC)

The First US Assault Drones. (Air, Land, and Sea)

19 Comments leave one →
  1. Anonymous permalink
    September 21, 2009 12:46 pm

    “I’m surprised, the existing flight deck doesn’t look big enough enough to handle two Merlins to me, but thats just from looking at it.”

    Bad internet English on my part in a thrown together throw away statement. The flight deck is humongous. If the Argentines can operate 2 Sea Kings off a Type 42 (knowing what a dance they had onboard T42 during GW1 with multiple Lynx) I I am sure HM RN could operate two Merlins. The masters at operating big helicopters off small flight decks are the Canadians. I think what I was trying to say is what you said; how many precisely could a T45 handle comfortably and would making her a little longer (to increase both hanger and flight deck space) be a benefit.

  2. William permalink
    September 20, 2009 5:40 pm

    “Thanks! Hope you didn’t think I was being rude, cheeky, or doubting you. I have a talent for missing stuff and thought it best to ask.”

    Not at all, its quite alright to ask for a source if its available.

    “We will have to get the ruler out to see about what helicopter will fit. But she should handle two Merlin without problems.”

    I’m surprised, the existing flight deck doesn’t look big enough enough to handle two Merlins to me, but thats just from looking at it.

  3. Anonymous permalink
    September 20, 2009 5:10 pm

    “I can’t remember the source exactly… it was some bloggers opinions, it may have been on the warships1 blog or some other blog.”

    Thanks! Hope you didn’t think I was being rude, cheeky, or doubting you. I have a talent for missing stuff and thought it best to ask.

    She is an electric ship so there is no way engine noise could be transmitted downs shafts. She has a fixed pitch prop’ so noisy boss. I should imagine everything will be rafted (to cut NVH through out the hull.) I can’t see her being that noisy. And as I said with improving submarine technology and with ASW moving toward shallow littoral this will mean pinging all the way. Hull noise won’t be that much of a problem (that is a little joke btw :) ;) )

    We will have to get the ruler out to see about what helicopter will fit. But she should handle two Merlin without problems.

    Thanks again.

  4. William permalink
    September 20, 2009 1:31 pm

    I can’t remember the source exactly… it was some bloggers opinions, it may have been on the warships1 blog or some other blog.

    It was said that the its due to the shape of the hull, and the placement of the engines vs the waterline and the fact that the ship was constructed in sections, then joined together, rather than as one piece.

    I must admit, that I was wondering how much of an issue it is really nowadays, with towed array sonar and/or active sonar. Other nations seem to get along just fine with general purpose warships.

    Also I was thinking if the Type 45 hull was used, I’d like the back to be stretched to accomodate TWO Merlins, at least the flight deck, but hangar space too if possible. Shouldn’t cost too much more.

  5. Anonymous permalink
    September 20, 2009 12:52 pm

    “However I’ve been told that the Type 45 hull is not optomised for ASW, regarding noise reduction levels and therefore is not suitable and so a new purpose built ASW hull would have to be designed.”

    Really? I am out of touch so I would be interested to know the source. I am going to have to go away and think about that. What about prop’ noise? The Leanders were lot quieter than the T22s because of the latter’s VP prop. Where as T23 returns to a fixed pitch prop.

    Also as submarines become quieter surface vessels will have to rely more on more on active rather passive sonar….

    (Of course owning submarines doesn’t mean you are necessarily competent in operating!)

    Thanks for giving me something more to mull over!!!!

    {As an aside paddle craft have wonderful low noise signatures….}

  6. William permalink
    September 20, 2009 8:56 am

    “If I may take your idea one stage further this what I would do with FSC; just re-jig Daring for ASW.”

    This is an idea that I’ve suggested before, as the Type 45 hull is aleady designed and there’s lots of room for growth, plus commonality advantages. However I’ve been told that the Type 45 hull is not optomised for ASW, regarding noise reduction levels and therefore is not suitable and so a new purpose built ASW hull would have to be designed.

  7. Anonymous permalink
    September 19, 2009 4:57 pm

    “Personally I don’t see why they don’t just build more VANGUARD class subs. Don’t bother with the expense of a new design, perhaps have fewer missile tubes, but keep the design unchanged. Would be a lot cheaper.”

    I would keep the same number of missile tubes. You could have got away with reducing tubes in the Cold War by fully loading each missile with MIRVS. I can’t really use the argument that steel is cheap here because for VANGUARD it isn’t.

    But you are right. Surely further automation could be implemented within the current hull. Using previous designs was how ships were design when we ruled the waves. If I may take your idea one stage further this what I would do with FSC; just re-jig Daring for ASW.

  8. William permalink
    September 19, 2009 3:11 pm

    Personally I don’t see why they don’t just build more VANGUARD class subs. Don’t bother with the expense of a new design, perhaps have fewer missile tubes, but keep the design unchanged. Would be a lot cheaper.

  9. Anonymous permalink
    September 19, 2009 2:32 pm

    “I can’t see it being cancelled to be honest.”

    No neither can I. My main concern is Trident. Cancellation of this program without SSNs replacing SSBN in the build program would leave a gap from which the nuclear submarine programme might not recover. The nuclear submarine is the pinnacle of technical achievement for an industrialised nation. Brazil and India what this capability badly they both appreciate what this capability means. I think our political masters would gladly surrender it (leaving their French masters as the only nuclear power in the region.)

  10. Scott B. permalink
    September 18, 2009 10:25 pm

    More news on the LockMart LCS variant :

    USS Freedom (LCS 1) Completes Industrial Post-Delivery Availability

    Is this the beginning of some intensive LockMart PR effort ?

  11. William permalink
    September 18, 2009 3:23 pm

    “I had heard that too. Interesting when you think about the HMS Endurance scuttle butt (will she be scrapped etc. etc. yawn.)”

    And they were in a hurry to get the Typhoons FGR4’s down to the Falklands…. Apparently there aren’t very many FGR4’s in service.

    “The picture of CVF in Portsmouth is wonderful. I am quite familiar with that piece of defence real estate. I hope to see this in real life.”

    Yes, Very Impressive looking. I can’t see it being cancelled to be honest.

  12. Anonymous permalink
    September 18, 2009 2:54 pm

    “Apparently the Garrison on the Islands has been increased. Not sure by how much though.”

    I had heard that too. Interesting when you think about the HMS Endurance scuttle butt (will she be scrapped etc. etc. yawn.)

    The picture of CVF in Portsmouth is wonderful. I am quite familiar with that piece of defence real estate. I hope to see this in real life.

  13. William permalink
    September 18, 2009 1:58 pm

    “If we had kept a reasonable naval presence down south there would never have been a RAF Mount Pleasant…………”

    Apparently the Garrison on the Islands has been increased. Not sure by how much though.

    Also the RAF do seem to be in a HURRY to withdraw the F3 from service.

  14. Anonymous permalink
    September 18, 2009 1:39 pm

    “RAF Typhoon FGR4s have been deployed to the Falklands replacing the Tornado F3’s.”

    The pictures are great on that page too……. :)

  15. Anonymous permalink
    September 18, 2009 1:38 pm

    “RAF Typhoon FGR4s have been deployed to the Falklands replacing the Tornado F3’s.”

    If we had kept a reasonable naval presence down south there would never have been a RAF Mount Pleasant…………

  16. Heretic permalink
    September 18, 2009 10:05 am

    Mike … don’t *even* get me started on LockMart Crap …

  17. Mike Burleson permalink*
    September 18, 2009 8:30 am

    Scott-They’re extremely proud of their failures!

  18. Scott B. permalink
    September 18, 2009 8:27 am

    Some LCS-3 news that almost went unnoticed :

    Landing of Gas Turbine Engines is Latest Milestone for Nation’s Third Littoral Combat Ship

    LockMart is making sure LCS-3 won’t be cancelled for the second time !!!

  19. William permalink
    September 18, 2009 8:27 am

    RAF Typhoon FGR4s have been deployed to the Falklands replacing the Tornado F3’s.

    http://www.fast-air.co.uk/RAF-Coningsby-Falklands-Typhoon-Flight-1435.htm

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