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January 17, 2010
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Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Gary Roughead participates in the commissioning ceremony of the Navy's newest littoral combat ship USS Independence (LCS 2).

This from the US Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Gary Roughead, at the commissioning of the latest littoral combat ship (LCS) USS Independence via Reuters:

If he had more of the new ships — which carry manned and unmanned helicopters — already available, they would be deployed like a “swarm of bees” around Haiti, Roughead said.

Though a $700 million warship as the “low end” of your fleet isn’t the  way to get there, still good to know someone in the leadership is acknowledging the need for a bigger Navy other than just for war.

17 Comments leave one →
  1. January 18, 2010 7:12 pm

    We also need more USN reservists to fill the ranks.

  2. Bill permalink
    January 18, 2010 2:34 pm

    Lee;

    Getting a crew together that is adequately trained to operate the HSFs would be a big challenge on short notice, methinks..

  3. leesea permalink
    January 18, 2010 12:13 pm

    Hawaii Super Ferrys sitting at NORVA would trump both LCS and Sea Fighter, BUT they ALL need a functioning pier to go to.
    Between what is on the amphibs and what is coming on the USNS Lummus, its possible to get some kind of wharf in operation, Plan B would be to setup and offshore base and trickle the cargo ashore on landing craft – not a good plan but we’ll see what all that warfighter brass comes up with next?

  4. D. E. Reddick permalink
    January 18, 2010 11:45 am

    Bill,

    Sea Fighter would certainly seem to be better suited to serve as a high speed equipment and supplies ferry than the available LCS-1. Whether making runs between Gitmo and P-a-P or else doing the same between P-a-P and other coastal locations around Haiti, she could serve a purpose.

  5. Bill permalink
    January 18, 2010 11:26 am

    Interesting post and commecnts, particularly since my earlier mention of the Sea Fighter being in the area brought mostly derisive hoots in response. Since HA/DR is not my strong suit..and neither is LOTS in general..( I just design ships and craft..others use them) I deferr to the opinions of those with the direct experience.

    But…if Sea Fighter is not considered a potentially usefull asset in the current or near-future Haiti situation then none of the LCS would be either…or so it seems to me.

  6. Mike Burleson permalink*
    January 18, 2010 6:02 am

    I notice also on the news the airport is bogged down with flights. There is looting going on because the food isn’t getting distributed. While its hard to trust almost anything the reactionary MSM says in times like these, looks like what Galrahn is predicting has come about, the chaos.

    As Mr X points out, here is a chance for naval forces to shine. Small littoral craft, amphibious lift, this is their chance to prove their worth. The importance of navies, right here, and they don’t have to be giant gold-plated variety to do this. Its about hulls in the water, Admiral Roughead, not rocket science.

    D.E., thanks again!

  7. Mike Burleson permalink*
    January 18, 2010 5:52 am

    Eric, there you go! We’ve had these craft since early in the decade, and they are cargo ready. It will be yet another decade before we have a “swarm” of LCS.

    Scott–Bingo!

  8. leesea permalink
    January 17, 2010 11:54 pm

    as I keep on pointing out, the LCS are NON-self-sustaining vessels. That is a term of art in the transportation world for a vessel which can NOT discharge its cargo with organic cargo equipment. IF CNO wants a swarm of LCS around Haiti, he had BETTER get the SeaBees in there first to setup a nice pier with a crane and some MHE to wrestle all the cargo inside the LCS mission deck.

    OR was he talking about the two Seahawks with there minimal cargo capacity. Goto MSM and see what they can do. And what kind of M&R can the LCS do on those helos?
    Swarm that is only buzzing not landing on Haiti IMHO

  9. Mrs. Davis permalink
    January 17, 2010 6:36 pm

    Like I keep sayin’, the problem is people, not platforms. Great example.

  10. juandos permalink
    January 17, 2010 5:59 pm

    Like a “swarm of bees” around Haiti. And doing exactly what?“…

    Getting some necessary target practice in taking out looters and street gangs?

    Those fine, upstanding Haitian citizens have been acting Katrina Stupid lately…

    BTW just what happened to all extorted tax dollars already sent to Haiti?

  11. January 17, 2010 5:54 pm

    Rather have a “swarm” of HSV’s.

    Roughead is what you get when you promote “yes men” beyond their “capacity”.

  12. Scott B. permalink
    January 17, 2010 4:34 pm

    Scott B. said : “Fundamentally, LCS remains a $500+++ solution looking for a problem.”

    A $500 MILLION solution looking for a problem actually.

  13. Scott B. permalink
    January 17, 2010 4:33 pm

    Morden said : “Like a “swarm of bees” around Haiti. And doing exactly what?”

    Merely the latest rhetoric in the pro-LCS marketing ploy. Pirate Hunting is sooo ‘passe’, ya’ know… ;-)

    Roughead is merely trying to surf a new wave, as opposed to acknowledging anything as Mike suggests.

    Fundamentally, LCS remains a $500+++ solution looking for a problem.

  14. D. E. Reddick permalink
    January 17, 2010 4:30 pm

    Mike,

    My intent had been to remind you and the other contributors to this blog that there is that other option (other than the LCS program) for providing small warcraft which are also useful during emergencies. I am speaking of Patrol Craft (PCs), Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs), and corvettes. Much like the four Coast Guard cutters now deployed to Haiti, they could provide valuable assistance in such a situation. Also, should someone try to take advantage of the regional situation then they could turn about and place helos, RHIBs, shells & missiles where needed. And they could do it for much less initial costly layout than what is being encountered with the gold-plated, extravagantly pricey LCS units.

    https://newwars.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/lcs-alternative-weekly-11/#comments

    D. E. Reddick | permalink | 2010 January 17

    USS Independence (LCS-2) has entered into commission. Three news reports follow. CNO Admiral Roughead’s quote regarding a “swarm of bees” (in the 2nd report) should strike a chord with some here at this blog (although not quite as the CNO meant it).

    “Right now we’re working a lot of different options, but if the LCS would be of value in Haiti, then that’s where it’s going to be,” Roughead said, noting the ship’s shallow draft made it well-suited to bolster the U.S. military effort there.

    If he had more of the new ships – which carry manned and unmanned helicopters – already available, they would be deployed like a “swarm of bees” around Haiti, Roughead said.

  15. January 17, 2010 4:26 pm

    There is an obsession with the media about “flying aid in.” They seem ignorant of the fact that a ‘plane like the C-130x can only carry as much as a big truck.

    To get serious aid in stuff needs to be landed across the beach which means amphibs and landing craft. The port should be priority over clearing roads to the airfield.

    I don’t see what lots of helicopters with their long logistical train can do beyond medivac and liaison work.

  16. Morden permalink
    January 17, 2010 3:51 pm

    Like a “swarm of bees” around Haiti. And doing exactly what?

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